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TSS Where Are They Now: Dave "Boy" Green
By Shawn Murphy
Former welterweight contender Dave "Boy" Green is one of Britain's all-time favorite pugilists. Green had an excellent amateur career over a span of 105 fights. He turned pro in 1974. Over his seven year career he won the British and European Light-Welterweight titles and the European Welterweight title. He lost in two bids for a world title, against Carlos Palomino in 1977 and against Sugar Ray Leonard in 1980. Although an excellent fighter he had the unfortunate luck of fighting at a time when the welterweight division was absolutely loaded with talent. He retired in 1981 with a final record of 37-4 with 29 KO'S.
(SM) Mr. Green, tell me when you got started and what kind of amateur
career did you have?
(DG) A friend and I joined the local amateur boxing club. I really enjoyed the
competition. I think I was about thirteen years old. As an amateur I was
a bantamweight, a featherweight, and then a lightweight. I won three
Eastern Counties championships and got through to the A.B.A semi-
finals. I lost to Terry Waller who had won the A.B.A six times.
(SM) Where did the nickname "Boy" come from?
(DG) My manager/trainer Andy Smith suggested it. There probably was a lot
of guys named Dave Green, so he said we needed to have a nickname.
It came from a fighter in Chatteris named Eric Boon, he fought in the
1930s. That was his nickname and we just used that. It just stuck, it was
a good nickname.
(SM) Who would you say was your first big name opponent you faced?
(DG) Probably Joey Singleton. That was my fifteenth fight, I won in six.
(SM) What fight would you say was your career highlight?
(DG) Probably the Jean-Baptiste Piedvache fight for the European title.
That was the hardest one. He had won forty out of forty-one fights to
that point. It was a very tough fight for me.
(SM) Tell me about the John Stracey fight.
(DG) That was March 1977. Stracey was a former champion, had lost to
Carlos Palomino. Whoever won this fight was going to fight Palomino.
That one was a hard fight for me.
(SM) How close was your fight with Palomino before you were knocked out?
(DG) I was one or two rounds ahead at the time. Palomino had three cuts
around his eyes. But he caught me in the end. That was the first time I
was knocked down as a pro. I had won twenty-four fights in a row, my first
loss was a tough one.
(SM) You went to Denmark to defend your European title against Joergen
Hansen. What happened in that fight?
(DG) I was perhaps a bit too cocky. I knocked him down in the second round. I
just went for him and he was a big puncher, he caught me. I got up and
he knocked me down again and the referee stopped it. It was a big
mistake by me, the biggest mistake of my career.
(SM) How did you like your chances going into the Sugar Ray Leonard fight?
(DG) Well Leonard fought Benitez and I thought Benitez wasn't as rough or as
solid as I was. I thought I could go a good eight or ten rounds. Leonard
was such an outstanding fighter though, the best in the thirteenth or
fourteenth rounds there was.
(SM) You retired after a tough loss to Reggie Ford in 1981, only twenty-eight
years old, why?
(DG) I had won the British and European Light-Welter titles, the European
Welterweight title and my manager suggested it. He said out there is
Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Wilfred Benitez. He told me
to get out and do something else. At the time I didn't think he was right,
I thought I could fight for three or four more years. But he was a great
manager, he cared about me and I just got out.
(SM) Any regrets looking back?
(DG) I had over one-hundred amateur fights. My goal was to win a Southern
Area title in Britain. I far exceeded what I thought I would do. I got two
shots at a world title. I've been to Carlos Palomino's home
in California for dinner and Sugar Ray Leonard has been to my home and
had dinner with my wife and I. It's been good.
(SM) Any fighters you would have liked to have got a chance at but didn't?
(DG) I think Duran and Hearns would have beaten me. Maybe a Benitez
fight would have been a different story, but he was a great champion.
(SM) So after boxing what kind of career did you get into?
(DG) I was working for a packaging company as a packaging agent. One of
my partners said he going to get out of it. I bought out some more partners
and it became a fifty-fifty split. My partner retired a few years ago. It's
called Renoak. I also do a lot of charity work as well.
(SM) Do you keep up on boxing much these days?
(DG) Not so much. I think there is now like five or six champions at each weight.
When I was there it was the WBA and WBC. I think the game has been
spoiled now, you don't know who the real world champion is. When I was
fighting I could tell you who every world champion was in every weight
class and now I couldn't name two in any division. I think it has been
spoiled that way. I was lucky to be in the best welterweight division ever.
(SM) Mr. Green, any final comments?
(DG) Boxing has been very good to me. It's a dangerous sport. You should go
in, make as much money as you can and get out. I've been one of the
lucky ones. I had a great manager and I think that’s what you really need.
I had a great time.
Please take a minute to log on to Murphy's favorite organization, the Retired Boxers Foundation. The website is: retiredboxers.com.
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pete:
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Thank you. This was an interesting piece.
Tuesday Sep 2, 2008
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andy from newcastle:
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One of the names I grew up with, and along with Stracey and (John) Conteh, the most memorable of the seventies (Brits that is). Great that TSS is taking the time to remember him, that's what makes you guys special. Pity there was no photo though, I'd have loved to see Davey Boy as he is today. Thanks fellas. Toonoy
Tuesday Sep 2, 2008
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Brad:
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I remember watching Dave in the Sugar Ray fight...and during the referees instructions Dave was mocking the tassels on Sugar Rays socks or shoes...all I remember thinking is why is this guy getting cocky with Sugar Ray? He's going to get a good wuppin'.....and he did!
Wednesday Sep 3, 2008
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PHIL WRI8HT:
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Dave is always loyal to his FENS COMMUNITY,
he is a totaly geniun guy,
A GOOD MAN IN BUSINESS, A WINNER WHO HAS MADE THE BEST IOF HIS ABILITY.
He was around at a time when the standard in his divisionj was brilliant,
His hero was Alan Rudkin , and lkie most of us he has admiration for Muhhamid Ali, I have had the pleasure of interviewing him over the phone,
He did not know me from Adam yet he gave me his mobile phone number.
THE FENS VILLAGE CHATTERIS, HAS A TRADITION OF BOXING , IN PROPORTIOON TO POPULATION
CHEERS DAVE YOU ARE GENT, AND LEGEND
Friday Oct 10, 2008
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No Love For The Modern Glove
Fight fans who are of the opinion that modern boxers could have held their own against guys from earlier eras always seem to ignore the fact that boxers back in the day were more durable than modern ones and had to be because of the different conditions under which they fought. For one thing, the lighter, non-water-resistant, horsehair gloves used in earlier eras required one to have stronger hand bones than the heavier, foam-padded, water resistant gloves used today, so any modern fighter who suffers chronic hand injuries would never have lasted very long in bouts fought in earlier eras (unless, of course, they took a little off of every punch that they threw, which, of course, would have made them much less effective fighters). ---TSS reader Feed The Cat offers some perspective on the Old vs. New debate
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