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    Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line




    GIVE "EM DEL, BOY - Dereck Chisora, 17-4 (11)scored a controversial 6th round stoppage of previously undefeated US heavyweight hopeful Malik Scottin a high profile contest at London's Wembley Arena on Saturday.

    Scottsubsequently scored big, butprobably unprofitable class act points witha personalstoppage offurther controversy.

    Counted out by refereePhil Edwardsafter rising from a knockdown, Scott may or may not have fully regained stable footing by the toll of "ten".

    It was hard to distinguish from multiple-angle replays.

    Slow motionappeared to show Scott starting up from a kneejustat"nine" and next, being waved off a beat of the corresponding count later at what would have been "ten" had Edwards said anything. Excellent camerawork from directly behind Scott's silhouette showedEdwards counting loud and clearwith his progressively raised fingersin Scott's face.

    It looked like Scott was timing the count in a fully coherent manner.

    Whether or not he was up and able to continueis the question. Scott, now 35-1-1,exhibiting sportsmanship and class, gavean accurateanswer to the media.

    "Everybody knows I was up in time, but Dereck won a good, clean fight and we're not going to turn this into something," said Scott, who represented the States well despite the result.

    "I'm a professional. Dereck hit me with a good shot, I gave myself an eight count.Hopefully they'll have me back for a rematch."

    Most ringsiders reported Scott was ahead just before the fight's finish, but no official scores were available.

    Scott appeared clear headed enough to continue, at least under boxing's brutal generalprotocol.

    No one, including Scott, will ever know exactly what was going through his craniumduring those crucial seconds.

    "I knew he'd go down ifI caught him, and I caught him," summarized Chisora, whowas in excellent condition and appeared ready to keep good pressure on for ten rounds.

    Chisora credited his mother and promoter Frank Warrenamong those responsible fora newly dedicatedtraining attitude that indeed seemed in evidence.

    "One day my mom had enough and said why don't you listen to people?" reflected a revitalized Chisora. "Then Frank got me in his office, saying he didn't understand what was wrong, and I saw a tear. I decided I'd listen to the people trying to help me for six months, and then do things my way again if nothing happened."

    Something indeed happened, in the form of a thuddingoverhand right that looked like it caught Scott on the left side of his noggin and upper neck and resulted in a post-mauling knockdown as Scott was bent to a knee.

    What might have happened if the fight continuedis as moot as it gets.

    It was notreally anaction packed battle, with more clinches and shoves than big punches, but it was hard fought at a good pace and it was entertaining.

    One point many observers took away was that if Scott had more of a punch he would really be a dangerous boxer.

    Scott may not have showed the best strategy, but he did show personal integrity.Strategy can be improved, and integritycan be magic.

    Scott is probably motivated, like Chisoram to pay moreattention. They both earned another look, separately, or in what would probably be another good draw, a rematch.

    If Scott were willing to meet another noteworthy American prospect immediately, he could find that he didn't really lose much ground at all.

    Meanwhile, Chisora has bigger plans now.

    "I want to go back to Germany," offered Chisora. "Me and the older Klitschko have unfinished business."

    Chisora is still realistically at least a step away from getting back tothat level, but at least we know he's willing. Warren indicated a stay busy fight against a recognized opponent was planned for September in the mean time.

    One solid opportunity might be an elimination brawl against always willingManuel Charr.

    Charr looks like he could really develop into something, but the key word is develop.

    Right now Charr might be too brave for his own professional good. He'd probably welcome a fight with the far more battle-tested Chisora, which isn't the best risk-reward optionCharrmay find.

    Chisoraagainst Tony Thompson, with a solid UK undercard, could fill asmallsoccer stadium. Add Scott against David Price and you've gota big night, mate.

    This weekend marked the ironic anniversary of another, bigger night, which resulted in a controversial KO when Mike Tyson stopped Carl Williams in the first round in Atlantic City.

    After Chisora's stoppage loss to David Haye, some people said Chisora's career was pretty muchfinished.

    Some people said big nights for the heavyweights were over long ago, too.

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    Scott is a bum who was used to knocking out worse bums. Chisora has been in there with top guys and held his own. it was no funny business except on Scott's part. If you go down and want to take a knee and clear your head you get up at the count of 8 not 9.5. Scott had it easy and it showed. he took the easy way out instead of getting laid out.

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    There was something definitely counterfeit about this fight! Scott was at least 2 rounds up! Chisora was basicly dancing and had an inability to cut off the ring! Too bad there wasn't any compubox stats on this because Chisora was propably throwing about 15 punches per round! Scott was displaying superior foot movement and he was fighting off the ropes effectively! Chisora came out with a right to the temple which didn't appear to hurt Malik! He went to one knee! He rose at 9 and it got waved a knockout! Why in the heck did he wait so long? Chisora doesn't play with a full deck! Being considerably overweight for Fury, slapping Vitali in the preliminaries, The big farce of his fight prior with Argintinian Hector Avilla! (He looked garbage)! The suspension of his license because of the street fight with Haye after with Vitali! What entity has his claws in him? BP?

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    scott got hosed ,that count was as fuzzy as zack claytons over forman in zaire ...

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Campbell View Post
    There was something definitely counterfeit about this fight! Scott was at least 2 rounds up! Chisora was basicly dancing and had an inability to cut off the ring! Too bad there wasn't any compubox stats on this because Chisora was propably throwing about 15 punches per round! Scott was displaying superior foot movement and he was fighting off the ropes effectively! Chisora came out with a right to the temple which didn't appear to hurt Malik! He went to one knee! He rose at 9 and it got waved a knockout! Why in the heck did he wait so long? Chisora doesn't play with a full deck! Being considerably overweight for Fury, slapping Vitali in the preliminaries, The big farce of his fight prior with Argintinian Hector Avilla! (He looked garbage)! The suspension of his license because of the street fight with Haye after with Vitali! What entity has his claws in him? BP?
    Scott quit.

    PunchStat Report

    Derek Chisora KO 6 Malik Scott
    07/20/2013 London

    Chisora forced the grappling, clinching type of warfare he preferred, limiting Scott to just seven landed jabs over six rounds. More than half of Chisora's 82 landed power shots were to the body.

    Total Punches Landed / Thrown

    Round

    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    Chisora
    16/42
    22/48
    11/34
    20/38
    10/27
    16/44

    38%
    46%
    32%
    53%
    37%
    36%

    Scott
    8/45
    9/42
    6/32
    10/39
    8/45
    6/31

    18%
    21%
    19%
    26%
    18%
    19%

    Jabs Landed / Thrown

    Round

    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    Chisora
    2/9
    5/11
    1/9
    1/6
    2/9
    2/22

    22%
    45%
    11%
    17%
    22%
    9%

    Scott
    2/30
    1/17
    1/11
    1/14
    1/27
    1/22

    7%
    6%
    9%
    7%
    4%
    5%

    Power Punches Landed / Thrown

    Round

    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    Chisora
    14/33
    17/37
    10/25
    19/32
    8/18
    14/22

    42%
    46%
    40%
    59%
    44%
    64%

    Scott
    6/15
    8/25
    5/21
    9/25
    7/18
    5/9

    40%
    32%
    24%
    36%
    39%
    56%

    Final PunchStat Report



    Total Punches
    Jabs
    Power Punches
    Chisora
    95 / 233
    13 / 66
    82 / 167
    41%
    20%
    49%
    Scott
    47 / 234
    7 / 121
    40 / 113
    20%
    6%
    35%

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    Another example of shady refereeing in the UK... Regardless of what anybody thinks about Scott,he was up well before the ref counted 10. Maybe he would have lost.. Maybe he could have eaked out a decision. ...
    Before he was flagrantly rabbit punched...and given the dirty end of the shaft on Brittish TV.. even those present at the fiasco protested the short count boisterously... England is starting to catch up to Germany when it comes to hometown Reffing.

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    Quote Originally Posted by brownsugar View Post
    Another example of shady refereeing in the UK... Regardless of what anybody thinks about Scott,he was up well before the ref counted 10. Maybe he would have lost.. Maybe he could have eaked out a decision. ...
    Before he was flagrantly rabbit punched...and given the dirty end of the shaft on Brittish TV.. even those present at the fiasco protested the short count boisterously... England is starting to catch up to Germany when it comes to hometown Reffing.
    man did you see the compubox numbers? chisora whooped him thats why he quit and stayed down until 9.5. if he wasn't hurt and wanted to go, he would of been up at 8. did you see he reaction after the fight? sure wasn't upset about the fight being stopped. also the fight was even on points after the knockdown

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    I saw the score Deep... that's not the point ....the man was deprived an opportunity to continue...It wouldn't have bothered me in the least if Chisora had rolled him over like a freight train. The point is he popped up in plenty of time looking unphased and ready to go...and even though he looked more perplexed than upset...I didn't get the feeling he was about to lay down and quit at that particular moment. Scott was still in the fight...

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    Quote Originally Posted by brownsugar View Post
    I saw the score Deep... that's not the point ....the man was deprived an opportunity to continue...It wouldn't have bothered me in the least if Chisora had rolled him over like a freight train. The point is he popped up in plenty of time looking unphased and ready to go...and even though he looked more perplexed than upset...I didn't get the feeling he was about to lay down and quit at that particular moment. Scott was still in the fight...
    if scott was still in the fight he would a got up at 8 and held up his gloves and take a step forward. he got up at 9.5 . He hesitated because he was done. chisora out-landed scott 95 vs 47 in total punches, out jabbed scott 13-7 , and landed 82 power shots vs scotts 40. scott took the easy way out , that's why he didn't protest the outcome and was just happy not to be hurt badly. the ref didn't do it , scott did it. its not like scott was confused and didnt understand the count. you gotta start to stand up at 8 not 9.5

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    Re: Chisora Back in the Picture, Scott Back In Line

    That's what you got from it ....Personally I saw a fighter get cheated out of a fair count...and it spoiled the entire experience. Not the first bad call and certainly not the last... but I hate it whenever I see it.

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