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    Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident


    On October 11th 1996, Floyd Mayweather turned professional with a second round TKO over Roberto Apodaca, who was also making his pro debut. Here we are 17 years later and Floyd sports a career record of 44-0 (26) which is very impressive, and if he defeats Saul "Canelo" Alvarez 42-0-1 (30) this weekend, it's pretty much a given he'll retire undefeated based on who is out there qualified and in the running to meet him in the next two years.
    Some probably marvel at the fact that he's been undefeated for 17 years, something that wasn't the luck of the draw in no way, shape or form. Sure, he's managed himself brilliantly, but his boxing IQ and aptitude are just as impressive as his record. In addition to that, Floyd has never been out of shape for the duration of his career. Do you realize every time Mayweather started training for a fight, he never had to worry about his weight or conditioning. All he ever had to concentrate on was boxing and whoever the next opponent was. Unfortunately, a lot of world class fighters go into training and have to bust their *** just to get in shape and lose the necessary pounds just so they can make weight, then they focus on their craft and the opponent last.
    Yet in regards to Mayweather, we've never really even seen him tired or gassed. A body that's been in shape for 17 plus years like his must be strong in a boxing sense beyond imagination. Most fighters when they get in great shape brag about it. Not Mayweather. He brags about everything else except that. Like Bernard Hopkins, he doesn't have to tell us about how great of shape he's in, we already assume it.
    The list of fighters who can say that is very short and Mayweather belongs on it every bit as much as Rocky Marciano, Marvin Hagler and Hopkins. Like them he runs and stays fit along with not ballooning up in weight between fights. Is it a coincidence that Marciano retired undefeated, Hagler was undefeated from 1976-1987 and Hopkins was undefeated from 1993-2005?
    There are fighters around today and a multitude of them who've come before Floyd Mayweather who are/were more gifted, but didn't or don't work or think as hard as Floyd. That gives him a huge edge over everyone he fights. It's interesting (to me anyway) that one of the problems Canelo will have to deal with is his not being in good enough shape to deal with Mayweather, who is 14 years his senior.
    Think about all the temptations Mayweather has avoided since he's been on top and it's not like he leads a sedate life outside the ring. Yes, he's had his run ins with law enforcement and has said and done some ridiculous things, like referring to an HBO contract as slave wages, but has there ever been even the slightest rumor about him drinking too much or him snorting or shooting something that he shouldn't? If there has, I've never heard them. And do you know why that is? Because Mayweather, like him or not, takes boxing seriously.
    On top of that, winning means something and is paramount to him. His ability to focus on what's important is beyond comprehension. Like Hopkins, Mayweather grasped a long time ago that lazy losers and wannabes don't get paid. Again, most marvel at his unblemished record, something that doesn't blow me away because I believe if an in-their-prime Shane Mosley or Felix Trinidad fought every opponent Mayweather did on the night he fought them, they'd also be undefeated. What blows me away about Mayweather more than anything else is his lifelong dedication to boxing intelligence, which is really the things that have made him successful, not great natural talent. There have been a lot of fighters who were more physically gifted than Mayweather in the last 30 or 40 years.
    Sugar Ray Leonard, Tony Ayala, Hector Camacho, Roy Jones and Mike Tyson were better prospects than Mayweather. Yet look at all he's achieved. Actually, Joan Guzman is more physically gifted than Mayweather but isn't nearly as accomplished.
    In reality, Mayweather's asset is skill plus will and a dedication and love for the sport of boxing. He's taught himself and learned every aspect of the fight game in and out of the ring. How many other fighters not named Bernard Hopkins can that be said about? Some assume because Floyd isn't a 'walk in, take it to you' type fighter that he's not tough or strong, but you're wrong, because he's very tough and physically strong. He fought Miguel Cotto's fight in the trenches because he wanted to, not because he was forced to. Floyd wanted to beat Miguel at his own game and won many of the exchanges on the inside due to his grit and physical strength. Had he chosen to box and counter he would've escaped with a much easier fight.
    It was just eight years ago that Mayweather had to take the smaller purse in his first pay per view bout against Arturo Gatti. Up until fighting Gatti, Mayweather was a brash talking revolving title holder fighting on HBO. But he promised after Gatti, he'd only be seen on PPV and that's basically been the case. In fact the only time he didn't get the lion's share of the purse is when he fought the real "Golden Boy" Oscar De La Hoya six years ago. Mayweather hasn't just figured out where the X's and the O's go in the ring, he also figured out the business of boxing and what it took to pique interest in his fights. Mayweather realized that didn't have the most fan-friendly style and that he could never be promoted and packaged as the kid next door like Sugar Ray Leonard or Oscar De La Hoya. So he figured he'd **** the fans off with his antics and words and willingly adopted the role of the bad guy (like in professional wrestling). This made him boxing enemy number one and he's fed off of that and used it for motivation. And an overwhelming majority of fans wanted to and still want to see him lose - so they buy all of his fights so they can see it live and he laughs all the way to the Bugatti dealership.
    And that folks, along with him always keeping them hanging on for the fights they want him to make, is a lot of the reason why he's the most relevant, comprehensively covered and talked about athlete in combat sports worldwide. And like all else regarding Mayweather, that didn't happen by accident. Like his in the ring strategy, it was well thought out and planned. It really has been something to watch over the last eight years. Mayweather studies the art of boxing, stays in great shape, resist all temptation that's thrown his way, knows how to build and sell a fight and promotion, is very physically gifted and tough and knows what's most important, winning. He's never lost focus of that and for 17 years has done it his way. These things about Mayweather have to be admired and respected.
    Also, if you're a boxing purist, you must appreciate how Floyd has helped out other fighters who fell on hard times. He respects fighters and knows how tough the business is. He even paid for "Smokin" Joe Frazier's funeral without being approached to do so, at least that I'm aware of. Look for for Mayweather to retire with his health, wealth, respect and title. Again, adding him to another short list of fighters who can make that claim. Love him or hate him, Floyd Mayweather is one of the more unique great fighters we've seen, and that didn't happen by accident.
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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    floyd is very strong physically...

    he did gas a bit in the cotto fight, or was at least fatigued and exerted, besides that fight i cant recall another fight where he was so static and visually fatigued..

    i also view hagler as being undefeated....

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    I'm gonna have a fight party Saturday and the theme will be exaggerated money/wealth. I plan to hire 10 Mexicans standing on the corner of Home Depot, bring them over, and pay them to laugh at my every corny cliched joke. Y'all invited. Amasyeng, I'll have a Ellebre look alike specially for you. Every time Floyd wins a round in boring fashion.. You can reach over and smack the Leornard lookalike in back the head.

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    I watched that fight again last night, this version had different announcers and some different camera angles sprinkled in. After watching it again (for maybe the 10th time) I had Floyd winning all but 2 or possibly 3 rounds of that fight. he didn't appear fatigued to me,... but he did look like he was saving his hands. Also it's well known that Floyd was also recovering from the final stages of a cold of a flu, he doesn't talk about it... in fact you'll have a hard time finding the video where he admits to having a cold. But this caused his sinuses to dry out and crack during the fight, contributing to a lot of blood swallowing etc... But even though he made the fight hard by choosing to fight in the clinches... he made it easy on his legs by being stationary... it's ironic that Floyd couldn't fight Guerrero on the inside. Because unlike Cotto, Guerrero doesn't box on the inside... he's a straight up hit and hold man.... straight out of the MMA fighter-tactics playbook, which is why Floyd had to "hug him back"..... This is a good article, but there is one thing that I see as an occurring theme from the media and fans when discussing Mayweather..... it's the allegation that Shane was Shot... True Shane wasn't at his best, and he was in an up and down phase of his career,... However Shane was being shunned by the rest of the welterweights after he destroyed a De-Bricked Margarito. Even today you can find numerous archived articles where Freddy Roach says over and over "No we don't want any parts of Shane right now" also Paq apologetically acknowledged Shanes' challenge but emphasized he wasn't ready to "go in that direction" at the time.... You can easily Google this info, it's all over the web. So the appeal of Mayweather vs Shane was the fact that Shane destroyed a fighter that Mayweather was supposed to have ducked. Then immediately after the fight, Shane is dubbed a has-been and TopRank jumps on the opportunity to match Paq with Shane. I don't believe Shane was Shot... I believe Floyd made him look that way, and Paq finished him off.

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthPaul View Post
    I'm gonna have a fight party Saturday and the theme will be exaggerated money/wealth. I plan to hire 10 Mexicans standing on the corner of Home Depot, bring them over, and pay them to laugh at my every corny cliched joke. Y'all invited. Amasyeng, I'll have a Ellebre look alike specially for you. Every time Floyd wins a round in boring fashion.. You can reach over and smack the Leornard lookalike in back the head.
    ************************************************** *********************************************** Hey have a little respect! lol

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthPaul View Post
    I'm gonna have a fight party Saturday and the theme will be exaggerated money/wealth. I plan to hire 10 Mexicans standing on the corner of Home Depot, bring them over, and pay them to laugh at my every corny cliched joke. Y'all invited. Amasyeng, I'll have a Ellebre look alike specially for you. Every time Floyd wins a round in boring fashion.. You can reach over and smack the Leornard lookalike in back the head.
    thats hilarious..
    sp what ethnicity are you if you dont mind me asking?

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    b-sug i also heard that floyd had the flu, i am surprised he hasnt mentioned it if it is true, he has def mentioned hand problems with the ghost being why he couldnt deliver the excitement he promised.
    i had floyd winning 7-5 to cotto. that was a great fight, really brought out the best in floyd. he was throwing left hooks, right hooks uppercuts, straights, rolling his shoulder off the ropes, standing in the center of the ring with lead rights. he even wobbled cotto on like two occasions, he fought very very well. he did not use his legs and bicycle like he did the ghost.....the great and late Manny Steward commentated that fight, he was a pleasure to hear...

    as far as mosley, true shane destroyed margacheato, he nearly decapitated him. that may be my favorite fight in history...shane is truly one of my favorite fighters i have ever followed. however, he fought floyd 18 months later, an 18 month layoff is detrimental for a 38 year old, no matter the level..

    i remember complaining that shane needed a fight, no matter who , just get someone in there with him to keep the rust off. never happened...
    either way, he landed two bombs that put floyd into another dimension, and boy did he make shane pay. he responded like a dragon.

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    I think alot of people are going to be surprised...Canelo by late stoppage, in spite of the Oscar melodrama...It's time to leave the stage Floyd...Mayweather will break one of his hands (a sizable detriment, fragile hands). Canelo will prevail.....Things don't always happen the way there supposed to go. I like Floyd's sense of humor, but this time the joke may be on him.....
    Last edited by Buzz Murdock; 09-12-2013 at 09:23 PM.

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    hey Buzz i have thought about that as well this week. what if floyd breaks a hand in round two?
    then its canelos fight to lose...
    floyd is near 37 and nature isnt kind at 37 like it is at 27

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    Re: Floyd Mayweather: It Didn't Happen By Accident

    @buzz
    Interesting and possible

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