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    Algieri Would LOVE To Fight Pacquiao...IF The Price Is Right

    Manny Pacquiao needs a dance partner for his November 22nd date, and New Yorker Chris Algieri, last seen giving a lesson in perseverance and top-level pugilism and ring generalship against Ruslan Provodnikov on June 15, is willing to rumble with the Congressman.
    If…
    If he can secure what he believes is a reasonable payday for his effort.
    The 30-year-old Long Islander has been busy as all heck enjoying the spoils of his win against the feared Siberian in Brooklyn, and that includes a stint on the CBS show "Unforgettable" on an episode which ran on Sunday night. He told me that he won't give up the day job, for Hollywood, and that he's keen on tackling Pacman. He'll even go to Macau to do the violent waltz: "If the deal is proper, I am in. I am a world champion----pay me."
    Indeed he is; the WBO 140 pound crown resides in his Huntington, Long Island home. But Algieri (20-0 with 8 KOs) isn't a brawler with a tunnel vision mindset fixed on getting the fight at all costs. No, the fighter owns a Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and is no dummy when it comes to doing the research to gauge his worth.
    "I'm tough, not stupid," the boxer told me. "My risks have been calculated--time to get what I deserve. I have options."
    Promoter Joe DeGuardia has been back and forth the last few weeks with Pacman's promoter, Bob Arum, and is getting an assist from old Arum pal Artie Pelullo. Pelullo has a piece of Algieri's contract, secured when he put his guy Provodnikov in with the junior welter who looked on the road to being a quickie steamrolled victim, but re-set his faculties, and then boxed a master class in Brooklyn.
    Algieri didn't dispute it when I probed and described the current offer on the table from Top Rank to meet the 36-in-December-year-old 56-5-2 Filipino, as a seven figure deal. I get the sense it's a low seven-figure deal, and he'd like the pot to be bolstered. The fight would be in China, he said, and the contracted weight would be over his current class of 140 pounds, which he said he makes with no worry. The travel is no impediment, but he could secure some good scraps at 140, and continue to build his brand, so I get the sense he isn't feeling like he has to latch on to the current terms offered by Arum.
    Life is tribal and sports are tribal, and marketers do like to have options to sell to, and when searching for a telegenic person to pitch a product or service. People do tend to root for those that look and talk like them, and could the Caucasian hitter from New York fill a niche that has been hard to find in the last few decades? Indeed he could…and I think he knows it. He knows he doesn't NEED to be a "B-side," and is quite rightly immensely proud of himself for gaining that WBO strap: "I am a world champion…that should be a substantial payday, no?"
    Rhetorical question, friends…
    You'll recall that Manny Pacquiao's last fight came against Tim Bradley. Bradley was guaranteed $6 million for that scrap. The fight before that, foe Brandon Rios was guaranteed $4 million to travel to Macau and fight the Congressman. Juan Manuel Marquez was guaranteed $6 million when he tangled with Pacman in December 2012, while Bradley was guaranteed $5 million in his first fight with Pacman, in June 2012. You can quibble and take issue and debate this compare and contrast, and note that the Provodnikov was Algieri's' first mega-rodeo event. But Algieri isn't really having it…
    "Bradley was another undefeated world champion (in the first fight), like myself," he told me. "And I'm more marketable and just beat the most feared man in the sport. For short money." Algieri continued: "Rios (entering the Pacquiao bout) was coming off a loss to a man (Mike Alvarado) that Provodnikov destroyed. And I beat Provodnikov, by a wide margin, in my opinion."
    Money matters aside, I delved into what the Pacquiao-Algieri fight might look like. Manny moves way better than Ruslan…could that prove to be a problem? Is it a 50-50 fight, in his eyes?
    "Nope," said Algieri, a former kickboxer who built a 20-0 record as a pro. "I win. I'm bigger, longer, stronger. I'm not a stupid fighter. Skills pay the bills."
    LOL, and it came back around to money. Yep, bills need to get paid. And to engage in this most dangerous game which in fact is not game at all, boxers deserve to get paid handsomely. How handsome a stack would Algieri need to get 'er done? Handsomer than is on the table now…
    Stay tuned…
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    Re: Algieri Would LOVE To Fight Pacquiao...IF The Price Is Right

    The title says it all.... And only if the price is right....because there's no way he has a " Tim Bradley " chance of winning that one.

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    Re: Algieri Would LOVE To Fight Pacquiao...IF The Price Is Right

    Should be interesting

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    It's rumored that Algieri had already been offered the fight.
    It appears the Bobfather is true to his word.
    The fight probably makes financial sense to top rank...especially if they fight in China.
    Personally its a fight I won't buy on PPV.
    I think its an easy one-sided fight for Manny.
    Algieri did fight the Russian Rocky for peanuts.
    He should be well compensated.
    But don't expect the whole world to be watching.

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    You are dealing with the "theatre of the expected." And there is a lot of tricks of the trade in full effect. And optical illusions are everywhere.

    All up on the pugvine, the word is that "Algieri has the right complexion to get the selection. But his arse will have no protection." And the scribes are taking off running with it. But they aren't telling you how many injuries that C-Al suffered from tSR mauling on his arse. And I ain't going there. I'm just throwing it out, because everything eventually comes out.

    C-Al is damage goods now. And it will be kept on the down low, as the high ups try to cash him out. I hope in China, "MURDER!" They don't shout. Holla!

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    It does appear that Arum has zeroed in on Algieri as the opponent. I am a little surprised as I am not sure how marketable the fight will be. But then again there wern't many available opponents and the one Arum truly wanted, Marquez, seemingly had zero interest.

    Ultimately, Algieiri will get more than what is currently on the table but it won't be substantially more. Bradley, Marquez and Rios each are big names and brought something a lot more to the table. Algieiri is a new comer to this level and had not accomplished anywhere near what the other three had when they stepped into the ring with Pacquiao.

    I do hope Top Rank learned from the Rios fight and puts on a strong undercard. That does not seem to be their philosophy but maybe with recent PPV numbers they up the ante a little bit. If, for example, Provodnikov faces the winner of Rios-Chaves and a couple other decent fights are added that would help get some buzz going and add to the value of the card.

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    You all know that I am an Algieri fan. Worked out with him, lots of analyzing him in the gym ring and the arena. He is kind of a prodigy, having improved 200% (approximately) in the last year, learning and implementing exactly what he needed to learn. He was a good gym fighter but hittable back then, and you saw how he kept Ruslan’s significant punches in single digits AFTER getting his brain scrambled - his learning curve was the best I’ve seen. But I am both realistic, and in all modesty, a guy who got a Ph.D. and a published book WHILE fighting - I am known for my knowledge of the fine points. HOWEVER, and this is the realistic coming out: even prodigies need lots of experience, and while he WILL analyze and decipher aspects of Pac’s game for a few rounds, its just too much to take on at this point. Pac just overwhelms him after a noble effort. No shame there. But this is a med-school fund fight, and I don’t think he can last the distance, has never seen angles and footwork like Pac will present, and will get worn down. But don’t underestimate the savvy of a guy who did what he did AFTER a potentially fight-ending first round. He may supply Radam with some good rhymes, but I am pretty confident I know what I’m watching. Four or five rounds of solid counterpunching and keeping Pac off balance, and then he gets buzz sawed one too many times. Think I’m just blinded by my homie still?
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    C-Al would get a giant college superfund. But by round three, he'd be busted up and super stunned. He'll believe that he had been in a Pinoy beehive. He'll be concussed and out like a light before round five. Hehehe! Holla!

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    Re: Algieri Would LOVE To Fight Pacquiao...IF The Price Is Right

    Quote Originally Posted by brownsugar View Post
    It's rumored that Algieri had already been offered the fight.
    It appears the Bobfather is true to his word.
    The fight probably makes financial sense to top rank...especially if they fight in China.
    Personally its a fight I won't buy on PPV.
    I think its an easy one-sided fight for Manny.
    Algieri did fight the Russian Rocky for peanuts.
    He should be well compensated.
    But don't expect the whole world to be watching.
    For those who don't watch, they'll just have to watch HBO the following week to see the kid from Long Island pull off his second upset of the year when he beats Manny Pacquiao!

    -Randy G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Commish View Post
    For those who don't watch, they'll just have to watch HBO the following week to see the kid from Long Island pull off his second upset of the year when he beats Manny Pacquiao!

    -Randy G.
    Hehehehe! Nice, Commish! You got jokes! Holla!

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