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Thread: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

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    Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time


    Sure, there would be risk for the 40-year-old Mexican in fighting Manny again. But he'd be rewarded with a purse perhaps double what he'd made before on his best night. I think he goes for it. You, TSS readers? (Chris Farina-Top Rank)
    Predictions: Juan Manuel Marquez will fight Manny Pacquiao for a fifth time probably in September, and he will not retire, and he will continue to negotiate smartly, and get all the leverage he can to get the best deal for himself he can coming off his stunning KO win over Pacman.
    Yeah, the report that Marquez is leaning against fight Manny again, I think that is pure bunk.
    As Marquez told Miguel Rivera of Boxing Scene a couple days ago, "I think for me there is no point [in a fifth fight]. "
    Lordy, I can think of like $10 million plus reasons, all of them green. JMM, I have seen no evidence that accumulated ring damage has impacted you physically, mentally or your speech...so I'm not fully understanding this talk... do you really need me to point out that reason number one is A CAREER BEST PAYDAY?
    OK, it can be pointed out that Marquez doesn't need the money, he has invested wisely, blah blah blah. Points taken...but show me the man who has turned down a $10 plus million dollar payday, against a guy he has just KTFO, a guy who might well be permanently affected by that KO, physically and mentally, and I will show you a work of fiction. Don't believe it, don't believe Marquez, all due respect, and think this is all negotiating.
    Mind you, I think this is reasonably effective jousting by Marquez, even if he is sort of jousting by himself at this point, as he was when he floated possible retirement right after the Dec. 8 win. In speaking to promoter Bob Arum a couple weeks ago, Arum told me he took Marquez' retirement talk at face value. Hmm, I guess in this situation I'm taking the more skeptical stance than the man who has negotiated hundreds upon hundreds of mega-money deals since he started in the biz in 1966. So be it...
    "We already achieved the desired result," said Marquez, who made $6 million or more to fight Manny in Vegas in December. "Then why do it? So I also asked several people, several friends that I have around me and they told me not to do it, that there is no point in a fifth fight. I said before the fourth fight that no matter how this fight ends, there can not be a fifth."
    Gosh, I have to congratulate Marquez for picking his friends wisely. Sorry, the skeptic (realist?) in me emerges again, but most friend clusters around famous entertainers-athletes like to see the sunshine and revenue flows and fancy dinners and flights to exotic locations and bigshot status continue as long as possible, so typically most would tend to politely or explicitly nudge or shove the moneymaker towards the big stage. If indeed Marquez' pals are encouraging him to not fight Manny again, I must applaud them, for going against the grain. (And I do note that it is more than possible that Marquez has a most caring and decent bunch of pals and confidantes surrounding him, I am not that hard-bit.) Also, did I miss Marquez' hard and fast pronouncement before the fourth rumble that this was the swansong, the finale?
    Yeah, I'm not calling Marquez a liar, because all is fair in love, war, boxing and negotiating your next fight. But not even a tiny part of me thinks the 39-year-old Mexican legend is going to retire this year, and will choose not to fight Pacquiao for a fifth time. It will be the most anticipated fight of 2013, and maybe the biggest moneymaker, too.

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    I don't think that is "bunk" about what Hulkquez -- I mean Marquez -- said that he see no reason to fight Da Manny again. The Juiced-up JMM fought for pride, not for prize. Da Manny was on the way to whuppin' the roids-and-PEDs Hulkized JMM until lightning struck. It will not strike the same way twice. JMM doesn't want any more of the Manila Ice. Holla!

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    Pride does strange things to a person. And Marquez is no liar. He just knows that Da Manny is on fire. And NO! JMM is not going to retire. He may just not dance with Da Manny again. JMM is smart with pride over prize. But -- like any hater -- I'd love for him to get full of himself and roids and PEDs again and dance with Da Manny. It will be JMM getting discombobulated in Fight Five. And that is no JIVE! All of Da Manny BEES are gonna come outta da beehive. Holla!
    Last edited by Radam G; 02-04-2013 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    no way will juan fight manny again. nope no no way. he will take that win with him. he might fight someone else but he will not ever fight pac man again. he wont risk the chance of losing.

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    4 times is enough! I would like to see Marquez & Pac take on some of the young lions at 140 & 147.

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    Marquez wont fight Manny because he knows Manny would be more defensive and very careful this time...IF that happens Marquez wont be able to unleash his lucky punch but he would expect more punishing punches from Manny which he got in round five and at the beginning of round six...Maybe his wife told him he could continue to fight but not with Manny Pacquaio...He might end up fighting at 140 where it is safer for his 40 year old body..

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    Perhaps history will prove Deepwater right, but that's not the way to bet it. Given the history of the sport, it wouldn't be totally shocking to see these guys have another go five years from now. I sure hope I'm wrong but the reality is that a boxer's retirement announcement, particularly his first, carries as much weight as an over-ambitious New Year's resolution. And yes I know there are exceptions, e.g. the two giants from Brockton, Marciano and Hagler. Meanwhile, kudos to both JMM and Manny for their sustained excellence.

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    I think he fights him again, Marquez deserves more than $10 million guaranteed; how about at least 20 million. It's going to be interesting see how manny comes back. Lucky shot my a**, that was timed precision

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    Re: Predictions: Marquez Doesn't Retire, Fights Manny For Fifth Time

    I see manny fighting mayweather before he fights Marquez ,look for mayweather to push for a fight with manny . Marquez has bragging rights, he can head into the hall of fame with his feather in the cap, always knowing he got the better of pacman. Marquez landed the perfect punch and it wasn't lucky, marquez can not do any better then that against manny again ,no where to go but down compared to that shot. Thanks to Pacman for being aggressive and going for the ko because that was part of the equation. 10 million is a lot and he can make that in the next 2 fights at least.

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    Ditto, Deepwater! Holla!

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